19850

Case IH 19850 – Engine Control Module (ECM): CAN timeout error for TSC1 of AD management torque and/or speed request to ECU

Issue description

The Engine Control Module (ECM) has lost communication over the Controller Area Network (CAN) bus with the Advanced Drivetrain (AD) management controller. The ECM is expecting a standard J1939 CAN bus message called TSC1 (Torque/Speed Control 1), which the AD management system uses to request specific engine speeds or torque limits. Because the message is not arriving within the expected timeframe, the ECM logs a timeout error.

Applies to these machines

  • Tier 4b
  • Magnum
  • Steiger
  • Optum
  • Puma
  • 580N
  • 590SN
  • T7
  • T8

Check the cause

  1. Check for accompanying CAN timeout codes (e.g., 19843 for Gearbox/Vehicle management, 19841 for ABS/ASR) to determine if the entire CAN bus network is compromised.

  2. Verify the AD management controller / Vehicle Control Module (VCM) for proper power and ground. A blown fuse or bad ground will prevent it from broadcasting the TSC1 message.

  3. With the machine off and batteries disconnected, measure the resistance across the CAN bus pins. A healthy network should read 60 ohms. 120 ohms indicates a missing/faulty terminating resistor or open circuit. Infinite resistance (open) indicates a severed wire or disconnected connector.

  4. Visually inspect the CAN bus wiring harness between the Engine ECU and the AD management controller/VCM for chafing, corrosion, or loose pins.

Repair steps

  1. Disconnect Power

    Turn off the machine and disconnect the battery to prevent electrical spikes during repair.

  2. Inspect and Clean Connectors

    Locate the harness connectors at the Engine ECU and the AD management controller. Disconnect them and inspect for pushed-back pins, moisture, or corrosion. Clean the pins with contact cleaner and apply dielectric grease.

  3. Repair Wiring / Replace Resistor

    If the CAN resistance test yielded 120 ohms, locate the faulty CAN terminating resistor or the break in the harness. Replace the damaged wire section or plug in a new terminating resistor.

  4. Reconnect and Clear Codes

    Reconnect all modules and the battery. Turn the key to the ON position and use a diagnostic tool (like the CNH Electronic Service Tool) to clear the inactive fault codes.

  5. Module Replacement (If Necessary)

    If the wiring and resistors are perfectly intact, but the AD management controller refuses to communicate on the CAN bus, the controller itself has failed internally and must be replaced and reprogrammed by a dealer.

Parts you might need

(5)
  • CAN Terminating Resistor (120 Ohm)

    84058092

    CNH / New Holland / Case IH

  • CAN Terminating Resistor (120 Ohm)

    200873550

    Alternative part number

  • Engine Control Module (ECM)

    Specific part number depends heavily on the exact engine serial number and machine model

  • Vehicle Control Module (VCM) / AD Management Controller

    Specific part number depends on the exact chassis configuration

  • CAN Bus Wiring Harness

    Engine-to-Cab/VCM harness

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