000177.09

John Deere 000177.09 – SSU / SST: Hydraulic Oil Temperature Message Missing

Issue description

The Steering System Control Unit (SSU) is not receiving the expected CAN bus message containing hydraulic oil temperature data. This is a communication issue on the vehicle's controller area network (CAN bus) where information from the sending controller is not reaching the SSU. The SSU requires this temperature information for proper operation of systems it manages, such as the AutoTrac™ system, which may be disabled if the oil temperature is perceived as too low. The loss of this message can be caused by high CAN bus traffic, wiring problems, or issues with the sending or receiving control units.

Applies to these machines

  • 9230
  • 9330
  • 9430
  • 9530
  • 9630
  • 8230T
  • 8330T
  • 8430T
  • 6020
  • 6120
  • 6220
  • 6320
  • 6420S

Check the cause

  1. Check for other active or stored fault codes related to CAN bus communication, power supply to other controllers, or the hydraulic temperature sensor circuit

  2. Restart the vehicle to perform a power cycle, which can sometimes resolve temporary communication glitches

  3. Inspect fuses related to the SSU and other relevant controllers (e.g., check fuse F23 for SSU power supply issues)

  4. Visually inspect the CAN bus wiring harness and connectors for damage, corrosion, or loose connections around the SSU, the sending controller, and the hydraulic oil temperature sensor

  5. Check the resistance of the CAN bus terminating resistors with the battery disconnected (measure between pins C and D of the diagnostic connector; ~60 ohms indicates intact resistors, 120 ohms suggests a faulty or disconnected resistor)

  6. Check the hydraulic oil level and ensure the oil cooler is clean and free of debris

  7. Use an infrared thermometer to measure the actual temperature of the hydraulic oil and compare it to display readings to verify sensor accuracy

Repair steps

  1. Address other faults

    If any other CAN bus or power supply-related fault codes are present, diagnose and repair them first before proceeding.

  2. Repair wiring

    If diagnostic checks reveal any damaged wiring or corroded connectors, repair or replace them as necessary. Ensure all connections are clean and secure.

  3. Test the hydraulic oil temperature sensor

    If the wiring appears to be in good condition, test the hydraulic oil temperature sensor and its circuit for correct functionality.

  4. Replace the hydraulic oil temperature sensor

    If the sensor is found to be faulty during testing, replace it with the correct OEM part for your specific machine model.

  5. Address controller issues

    If the fault persists after verifying the wiring and the sensor, the issue may be with the SSU or the control unit that sends the temperature message. Have a qualified technician reprogram or replace the control unit.

Parts you might need

(11)
  • OEM John Deere part listed for numerous tractor, combine, and forage harvester models. Verify fitment by serial number.

  • Hydraulic Oil Temperature Sensor

    LW9076544

    OEM John Deere part shown for various loaders and dozers. Verify fitment by serial number.

  • OEM John Deere part. Verify fitment by serial number.

  • Alternative part numbers include RE25659 and AH156144 depending on the specific machine model. Location varies (e.g., transmission pump suction manifold, hydraulic filter housing, or at the bottom of the clutch valve housing for a 4955 model).

  • Located at the ends of the CAN bus harness, near the ECU, SSU, and other controllers.

  • Confirm fitment for specific models via official parts catalog

  • OEM part. Verify correct part number for your specific tractor model and serial number before ordering.

  • OEM part. Verify correct part number for your specific tractor model and serial number before ordering.

  • Hydraulic Oil Temperature Sensor

    KV24465

    Fits Skid-Steer Loaders 240, 250, 260, 270, 280

  • John Deere Steering Controller

    RE342809

    Listed for John Deere equipment. Note: Not confirmed as the definitive repair for this specific fault.

  • Substitute part AL234340 is available. Note: Not confirmed as the definitive repair for this specific fault.

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