John Deere 002049.09 – SCC: CAB Message Missing
Issue description
A fault has been detected in the CAN BUS message communication related to the rear chassis. The Selective Control Unit (SCC) is not receiving expected messages over the CAN bus from the Cab Control Unit (CAB). This indicates a failure in message transmission or reception, which is typically caused by wiring harness damage, power or ground loss to a module, or a failed controller on the network.
Applies to these machines
11 machines- 8130
- 8230
- 8230T
- 8330
- 8330T
- 8430
- 8430T
- 8530
- 8310RT
- 8335RT
- 8360RT
Check the cause
Visually inspect the wiring harness and connectors between the Cab Control Unit (CAB) and the Selective Control Unit (SCC) for chafing, pinching, corrosion, or moisture.
Check fuses (such as F22) to ensure there is no loss of power to the control units.
Inspect and clean the main ground connections for the chassis and cab controllers.
Perform a CAN bus resistance check at a diagnostic connector with vehicle power off. A healthy bus should read approximately 60 ohms. A reading of 120 ohms may indicate a missing terminating resistor or broken wire, while significantly lower than 60 ohms could indicate a short in the wiring or a faulty controller.
Perform a CAN bus voltage check with power on. CAN High (Yellow wire) should be 2.5-3.0 VDC; CAN Low (Green wire) should be 2.0-2.5 VDC relative to ground. Abnormal voltages can point to a short to power, a short to ground, or a failed transceiver in one of the control units.
Repair steps
Address other codes
Diagnose and resolve any other active diagnostic trouble codes first, especially those indicating a loss of communication with other modules.
Isolate the fault
If visual and basic electrical checks do not reveal the problem, disconnect other controllers on the CAN bus one by one to see if communication is restored, indicating a specific module is pulling the network down.
Repair wiring harness
If a damaged section of the wiring harness is found, splice in new wire. Ensure connections are soldered and sealed with heat shrink tubing to prevent moisture intrusion.
Clean connectors
If corrosion is found on connector pins, clean them carefully with an electrical contact cleaner and ensure a secure connection upon reassembly.
Replace faulty controller
If diagnostics confirm wiring and connections are intact but the CAB controller is not sending messages or the SCC cannot receive them, replace the faulty controller.
Parts you might need
(3)Listed for 8130, 8230, 8230T, 8330, 8330T, 8430, 8430T, and 8530 models. Verify correct part with a John Deere dealer using the machine's serial number.
- Remanufactured Engine ControllerSE502800
Replaces RE531808. Distinct from the chassis or cab controllers.
- Engine ControllerRE531808
Replaced by SE502800.
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