John Deere 002161.09 – SCC: SV I Message Missing
Issue description
The Selective Control Unit (SCC) is not receiving the required CAN bus messages from the first Selective Control Valve (SV I). This indicates a communication breakdown on the network between the main hydraulic controller and the electronic control module integrated into the first hydraulic valve, resulting in the inability to operate the hydraulic functions associated with that specific valve.
Applies to these machines
25 machines- 8225R
- 8235R
- 8245R
- 8260R
- 8270R
- 8285R
- 8295R
- 8310R
- 8320R
- 8335R
- 8345R
- 8360R
- 8430
- 8530
- 8310RT
- 8335RT
- 8360RT
- 9230
- 9330
- 9430
- 9530
- 9630
- 9470RT
- 9520RT
- 9570RT
Check the cause
Visually inspect the wiring harness and connectors between the SCC and the SV I valve for chafing, corrosion on pins, loose connections, or pinched wires.
Perform a CAN Bus Resistance Check with the battery disconnected. Measure resistance between CAN High (Yellow) and CAN Low (Green). Approximately 60 Ohms is normal; 120 Ohms indicates a missing terminating resistor or a break in the wire; near zero indicates a short circuit.
Perform a CAN Bus Voltage Check with the system powered on. CAN High should be 2.5V to 3.5V; CAN Low should be 2.5V to 1.5V. If both show around 2.5V, suspect a short between them. Voltages outside the expected range may point to a faulty controller pulling the bus voltage down.
Review active and stored diagnostic trouble codes for other communication faults (codes ending in .09) to help locate a broader network problem.
Repair steps
Isolate the faulty component
Disconnect the electrical connector at the SV I valve and re-measure the CAN bus resistance. If the resistance returns to a normal value (e.g., from 120 Ohms or a short circuit back to 60 Ohms), it strongly suggests an internal failure within the electronic portion of the SV I valve.
Repair wiring harness
If disconnecting the SV I valve does not resolve the incorrect resistance reading, the fault likely lies within the wiring harness between the SCC and the SV I. Repair or replace the damaged section of the harness and ensure all connections are clean and secure.
Replace SV I valve
If the isolation test points to the SV I valve as the faulty component, replace the entire valve assembly, as the electronic controller is integrated into the valve.
Replace SCC module
If the wiring is intact and the SV I valve is not the cause, the Selective Control Unit (SCC) itself may be faulty. Replace the SCC module only after all other possibilities have been exhausted.
Parts you might need
(17)- Selective Control Valve (SCV) IRE260572
Earlier design. Part numbers vary by model/serial number and can supersede. Verify fitment with machine serial number.
- Selective Control Valve (SCV) IRE588375
Later design for 8R tractors. Part numbers vary by model/serial number and can supersede. Verify fitment with machine serial number.
- Selective Control Valve (SCV) IRE343863
Part numbers vary by model/serial number and can supersede. Verify fitment with machine serial number.
- Selective Control Valve (SCV) IRE262092
Part numbers vary by model/serial number and can supersede. Verify fitment with machine serial number.
Main controller for the hydraulic valves.
Rate Control Module, 5th SCV
RE569872Main controller for the hydraulic valves.
Relay Module
RE597968Associated relays involved in powering the control units. Fits a wide range of 8R and 8RT tractors.
SCC module itself
Rate Control Module / SCV Module
RE569863Depending on tractor model
Rate Control Module / SCV Module
RE574970Depending on tractor model
Rate Control Module / SCV Module
RE576734Depending on tractor model
Rate Control Module / SCV Module
RE581623Depending on tractor model
Rate Control Module / SCV Module
RE586553Depending on tractor model
- Rate Control Module / SCV ModuleRE588392
Depending on tractor model
For internal leaks or mechanical issues
Compatible with 7030, 8030, and 9030 series tractors. Alternative part number RE588171 for some 9030 series models.
- Selective Control Valve (SCV I)RE580227
Rear selective control valve. Alternative part number RE588375.
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