2161.09

John Deere 2161.09 – TIQ, SCC, or TID: Incorrect CAN BUS Message, Information from SV1

Issue description

Triggered when the main control software detects a data transfer problem or a complete loss of communication over the CAN Bus network with Selective Control Valve 1 (SV1).

Applies to these machines

  • 6110M
  • 6120M
  • 6130M
  • 6145M
  • 6155M
  • 6175M
  • 6195M
  • 6110R
  • 6120R
  • 6130R
  • 6145R
  • 6155R
  • 6175R
  • 6195R
  • 6215R
  • 7200R
  • 7230R
  • 8245R
  • 9430
  • 9530
  • 315SJ Mkii
  • 944K
  • 770G
  • 772G

Check the cause

  1. Inspect CAN Bus Wiring: Trace the wiring harness between the TIQ/SCC module and the SV1 module for chafed wires, pinch points, or exposed insulation.

  2. Check Connectors: Disconnect the harness at the SV1 module and inspect pins for corrosion, moisture, or pushed-back pins.

  3. Verify Power and Ground: Check unswitched and switched power supply to the SV1 module. A voltage drop below 9.0V will cause the SV1 to drop off the CAN network.

  4. Test CAN Bus Integrity: Use a multimeter to test for open or short circuits in the CAN High and CAN Low lines. Verify that the CAN bus terminating resistors are intact (approximately 60 ohms with battery disconnected).

  5. Check for Interference: Ensure proper grounding of the CAN Bus cables to eliminate electrical interference.

Repair steps

  1. Power Down

    Turn off the machine, remove the key, and disconnect the negative battery cable to prevent electrical spikes.

  2. Clean the Area

    Thoroughly clean the rear SCV stack area to prevent dirt from entering the hydraulic system or electrical connectors.

  3. Address Wiring Issues

    If the diagnostic checks revealed broken wires or corroded connector pins, repair the harness using OEM-approved weather-pack connectors and wiring splices.

  4. Replace the SV1 Module

    If power, ground, and CAN continuity are all verified but the SV1 still does not communicate, relieve all hydraulic pressure, unbolt the electronic control unit/actuator from the SV1 slice (or remove the entire SV1 valve assembly), install the new unit, and torque all mounting bolts to OEM specifications.

  5. Reassemble and Calibrate

    Reconnect the wiring harness and the battery. Connect a diagnostic tool (like John Deere Service ADVISOR) to clear the 002161.09 fault code and perform an SCV calibration procedure so the module can learn the new SV1 valve's parameters.

Parts you might need

(6)
  • SCV Electronic Control Unit

    RE588373

    Common on 7R and 8R series tractors

  • SCV Electronic Control Unit

    RE567656

    Common on 7R and 8R series tractors

  • Electronic SCV Controller

    RE201259

    Common on 8020 and 9020 series tractors

  • E-SCV Valve Assembly

    AL233582
  • Selective Control Valve Assembly

    AL174921

    Common on 6000 and 7000 series

  • Selective Control Valve Assembly

    AL174923

    Common on 6000 and 7000 series

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