002165.09

John Deere 002165.09 – SCC: CAN BUS Message Fault SCV 5

Issue description

The Selective Control Unit (SCC) is not receiving the expected communication signals from the fifth Selective Control Valve (SCV 5). This is a Controller Area Network (CAN) bus communication error, indicating a communication breakdown within the tractor's hydraulic system between the SCC and the SCV 5 component.

Applies to these machines

  • 8130
  • 8230
  • 8330
  • 8430
  • 8530
  • 9230
  • 9330
  • 9430
  • 9530
  • 9630

Check the cause

  1. Cycle tractor power to see if the electronic fault code clears upon restart

  2. Check for other active CAN bus-related codes that might indicate a wider network issue rather than a single component failure

  3. Verify hydraulic oil level as per the operator's manual

  4. Visually inspect the wiring harness between the SCC controller and the SCV 5 valve body for chafing, corrosion on connectors, or pinched wires

  5. With power off, check terminating resistors by measuring resistance between CAN High (Yellow) and CAN Low (Green) wires. Expected: ~60 ohms. A reading of 120 ohms indicates a missing or failed resistor

  6. With power on, check CAN bus voltage. CAN High should be 2.5-3.0 volts; CAN Low should be 2.5-2.0 volts

  7. With power off, check for shorts by measuring resistance from CAN High to ground and CAN Low to ground. Expected: open or mega-ohms

Repair steps

  1. Isolate the issue

    Swap the electrical connector from SCV 5 with an adjacent, functioning SCV. If the fault code moves to the other SCV, the SCV 5 solenoid/controller is faulty. If code 002165.09 remains, the issue is in the wiring harness or SCC.

  2. Replace SCV solenoid or controller

    If the fault moved during the isolation test, replace the SCV 5 solenoid or the electronic control unit on the valve.

  3. Replace SCC controller

    If the fault did not move and all wiring/CAN bus integrity tests passed, replace the Selective Control Unit (SCC).

  4. Calibrate hydraulic components

    After replacing an SCV component or the SCC, perform a calibration procedure using a John Deere service tool or the tractor's command center.

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