ENG 3333

New Holland ENG 3333 – Engine ECU: Timeout of CAN Message TSC1-DR (When Active)

Issue description

The Engine Control Unit (ECU) has stopped receiving the expected TSC1-DR (Torque Speed Control 1 - Driveline/Transmission) CAN bus message from the vehicle controller within the required timeframe while the system is active. This is a communication failure indicating that the engine is not receiving driveline torque commands over the CAN network.

Applies to these machines

  • T8.xxx Series
  • T8.330
  • T8.390
  • T7 Series
  • T7.220
  • T7.250
  • CR9040
  • CR9060
  • CR9070
  • CR9080
  • CR9090
  • CX8080
  • CX8090
  • B110
  • B115
  • B95B
  • D150B
  • D85B
  • F104B
  • F170B

Check the cause

  1. Verify if other CAN timeout codes are present (e.g., 3334 for TSC1-PE, 3336 for TSC1-TR, or 3338 for TSC1-VE) to rule out a broader CAN bus failure

  2. Inspect the CAN bus wiring harness between the Engine ECU and the Transmission/Vehicle controller for chafing, breaks, or corrosion, and check connector pins

  3. Measure the resistance of the CAN bus network to ensure terminating resistors are intact (typically around 60 ohms across CAN High and CAN Low with battery disconnected)

  4. Ensure the Engine ECU and the transmitting vehicle controller have proper power and ground supplies to prevent voltage drops that disrupt CAN communication

Repair steps

  1. Disconnect Power

    Turn off the ignition and disconnect the battery before working on the electrical system to prevent short circuits.

  2. Inspect and Clean Connectors

    Disconnect the harness connectors at the Engine ECU and the vehicle controller. Clean the contacts with electrical contact cleaner and ensure no pins are bent, corroded, or pushed back into the housing.

  3. Test Harness Continuity

    Using a digital multimeter, test the continuity of the CAN High and CAN Low wires between the Engine ECU and the vehicle controller. Repair any open circuits or high-resistance areas.

  4. Test for Shorts

    Test the CAN wires for shorts to ground, shorts to power, or shorts to each other. Repair the harness as necessary.

  5. Reconnect and Clear Codes

    Reconnect all connectors, reconnect the battery, and use a diagnostic scan tool to clear the fault codes.

  6. Test Operation

    Start the machine and operate it to see if the fault code returns. If the wiring is verified good and the code persists, the issue may lie internally within the Engine ECU or the transmitting vehicle controller, requiring module replacement or reprogramming.

Parts you might need

(11)
  • Engine Control Unit (ECU) - CNH/OEM

    2854594

    Must be programmed or cloned to match the specific vehicle's software, immobilizer system, and engine calibration before installation.

  • Engine Control Unit (ECU) - CNH/OEM

    504122542

    Must be programmed or cloned to match the specific vehicle's software, immobilizer system, and engine calibration before installation.

  • Engine Control Unit (ECU) - CNH/OEM

    2996409

    Must be programmed or cloned to match the specific vehicle's software, immobilizer system, and engine calibration before installation.

  • Engine Control Unit (ECU) - CNH/OEM

    504091970

    Must be programmed or cloned to match the specific vehicle's software, immobilizer system, and engine calibration before installation.

  • Engine Control Unit (ECU) - CNH/OEM

    5802247472

    Must be programmed or cloned to match the specific vehicle's software, immobilizer system, and engine calibration before installation.

  • Engine Control Unit (ECU) - CNH/OEM

    4898111

    Must be programmed or cloned to match the specific vehicle's software, immobilizer system, and engine calibration before installation.

  • Engine Control Unit (ECU) - Bosch

    0281010253

    Must be programmed or cloned to match the specific vehicle's software, immobilizer system, and engine calibration before installation.

  • Engine Control Unit (ECU) - Bosch

    0281020048

    Must be programmed or cloned to match the specific vehicle's software, immobilizer system, and engine calibration before installation.

  • Engine Control Unit (ECU) - Bosch

    0281020600

    Must be programmed or cloned to match the specific vehicle's software, immobilizer system, and engine calibration before installation.

  • CAN Bus Wiring Harness / Connectors

    Specific part numbers depend on the exact machine model and chassis serial number

  • CAN Bus Terminating Resistor

    Specific part number depends on the model

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